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From: Carol Zevenbergen
Category: Meeting notes and minutes
Date: 17 Jun 2004
Time: 09:55:54 -0700
Remote Name: 66.44.150.13
ST. CROIX COUNTY FARM MARKETERS ASSN. In response to a letter to Town Clerks regarding discussion on a proposed Direct Farm Marketing ordinance, a group of interested farmers met on Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at the Ag Center in Baldwin. Dr. Larry Swain was asked to help with the concerns the farmers had regarding this Ordinance. Discussion centered around the feeling that even though considerable outside research was done, the people working on it do not understand farm operations, particularly when it pertains to direct marketing of farm products. They need more information on how small farms are really run. The letter asked for "anyone who would be interested and/or may be able to provide specific language improvements with supported reasoning to the Committee for consideration." Everyone was encouraged to write to the Committee, giving an example of their particular operation. The Draft of the ordinance was gone over, point by point. Here are the comments: On the introductory paragraph for all three categories "single-family residence" may not fit. There could be operations with a second home for children or parents. Keep it the same as for normal farming operations. Seasonal Roadside Stands 1. This portion seems reasonable. Safety is important, so a safe ingress/egress makes sense. 2. One sign per location is not necessarily the safest thing. It could be a safety issue if people were jamming on brakes when they see that one sign, and want to turn in quickly. It would be safer to have smaller directional signs ahead, so people are prepared to turn off. (Signs would have to be placed properly so as not to obstruct drivers' view of intersections, etc.) Removal when products are not available is a reasonable regulation. Land Use Permit 1. Scratch out "from an immature stage." 2. 1,000 sq. ft. may not always be adequate, although adding the sentence that excludes areas where the customer directly harvests the product from the field does help. We are assuming that the customer would be able to pick a pumpkin and carry it to a check-out table in the "official" area. 3. Immediate family is unreasonable. All families may not have enough members to take care of the fieldwork and also staff the retail portion at the same time. There also would be times when the family would need to attend funerals, weddings, etc., and just plain "get away" occasionally. 4. Sunrise to sunset would probably work for most summer operations, but how about those who operate year around. People often stop on their way home from work, which in winter is after dark even at 5:00 p.m. Perhaps it could be "sunrise to sunset, or 8:00 p.m., whichever comes later." 5. One sign per location. The same comments apply here as above. The group suggested at least three signs per location, 2 direction type signs ahead, and an identification type sign at the location. When the business ceases to exist, signs will be removed. 6. Screening - most places would be able to do this. Often the location would not have close neighbors, and it would not even apply. 7. Parking - rather than spell out specific footage requirements, simply say something like "provide adequate off-street parking - no parking allowed on roadway." Traffic flow is not heavy; the market operator could see to it that customers do not park on the roadways. 8. This paragraph is very confusing. Are they saying only CSAs & Coops can be in Ag-Res or Ag-2? How about simplifying it to something like "dedicated green space in a subdivision must conform to the easements and terms of the individual subdivision covenants." There certainly could be other land in Ag-res or Ag-2 that could do marketing, but would not be a CSA or a Co-op. Special Exception Permit 1. 90% is too high a figure for what is grown on site. (Here too strike "from an immature stage.") 75% would be more reasonable figure. There could also be a provision that space would be shared with another local grower. Provision should be made to allow purchase of products in case of a crop failure or storm damage. In order to be competitive, the shoppers' needs would need to be filled to retain customers. 2. 2000 sq. ft. may be adequate most of the time, particularly for a new operation, but we need to allow for flexibility on size to use existing buildings, and allow for natural growth. 3. Eliminate family requirement. 4. Hours same as above. 5. Screening, same as above. 6. Signs, same as above. 7. Parking, same as above. 8. CSAs, same as above. Some General Comments: Fees are not mentioned, and are a concern. Is there any fee at all for a permitted use? The concern was that the fees be a nominal amount. It seems somewhat discriminatory that permits are given for things like dog training facilities, (with much more than 2,000 sq. ft.) and horse training facilities, again much higher than 2,000 sq. ft. There should not be a lot of extra traffic concerns for a market operation. Much of the shoppers would be people already using the road, and having adequate space to pull off the road takes care of the safety angle. How about ongoing operations? Should they be "grand-fathered?" Farm marketing has been a traditional part of the rural character of the "country." Sunday drives, looking for farm stands brings people into the area also, and helps not just the farm economy, but they may stop in local shops and restaurants also. The discussion went well. Everyone did not agree with every single thing, but the general agreement was what was said at the beginning: There needs to be more understanding of the workings of farm marketing, and real progress could be made toward a much more satisfactory ordinance by setting a time for staff, and/or Committee members to meet with members of our group. We promise not to bite anyone's head off, and staff would be reasonable too. It is really important to work at the local level, not just research. What other people are doing can be helpful, but we need to work things out with the local people. Betty VanSomeren moved name the group St. Croix County Farm Marketers Assn., seconded by Ann DesLauriers. All in favor. Spokespersons for the October 24th Planning, Zoning and Parks Committee will be Betty VanSomeren, Dan Pearson, and Pam Walton. Everyone is urged to attend the meeting if possible, even though all will not speak, but they should write to the Committee members, and a copy to Zoning Director, Steve Fisher. Letters should go out soon, so the committee members have a chance to study them beforehand. They may have some questions the day of the meeting. Also if their neighbors would sign a note showing their support of the existing farm market it would be good. Those attending: Greg Mahr 1249 80th St., Hudson 246-9920 Kathleen Brown 784 County Rd E., Hudson 386-3427 David R. Brown " " " " " " Ann Schroeder 891 LaBarge, Hudson 386-3744 Al Schroeder " " " " " " Daniel Pearson 524 Co. Rd. MM, River Falls 425-9488 Pam Walton 1985 30th Ave., Baldwin 684-2069 Rick Walton " " " " " " Stan Hensley 310 230th St., Baldwin 684-3772 Jim Lund 390 Cty Rd BB, Woodville 684-3936 Betty VanSomeren 2098 90th Ave., Baldwin 684-2662 Leonard DesLauiers 706 Coulee Trail, Hudson 425-6471 Ann DesLauiers " " " " " " Planning & Parks Committee: Ronald Raymond, Chair 821 McCutheon Rd, Hudson 54016 Clarence Malick 413 Brookwood Dr., Hudson Linda Luckey 1386 Pineview Tr., Hudson Art Jensen 2203 55th Ave., Baldwin 54002 Gerald Larson 1429 Cty Rd J, River Falls 54022